Council 2009 07 - Revision history

Rfs at 00:54, 7 July 2010

2010-07-07T00:54:05Z

Ideath: /* Ebay commission folks (NEW) */

2009-08-20T00:58:16Z

Ebay commission folks (NEW)

Ideath at 04:34, 16 July 2009

2009-07-16T04:34:17Z

Ideath: /* BUSINESS */

2009-07-16T04:10:11Z

BUSINESS

Ideath: somehow lost a bunch of stuff, this should fix.

2009-07-16T03:30:22Z

somehow lost a bunch of stuff, this should fix.

Ideath at 03:20, 16 July 2009

2009-07-16T03:20:45Z

Ideath: save often

2009-07-16T02:34:55Z

save often

Ideath: get the template in

2009-07-16T02:16:42Z

get the template in

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When:
 Place:
 Facilitator:
 Scribe:
 Minutes Checker:
 Attendance:
 Last meeting:
== COMMITMENTS ==
:Copy these from the prior meeting's minutes. Owner of each commitment should report on status: Done, In Progress, Carryover, Hand Off, or Drop. For items not completed, see http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Carryovers.
* Name - commitment - status (discussion points if necessary)
* Name - commitment - status (discussion points if necessary)
== REPORTS ==
:Reports from other working groups.
* State of the Onion http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/State_of_the_Onion
* General Priorities http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/General_Priorities
== BUSINESS ==
=== TITLE: PRESENTERS NAME (NEW/OLD)===
* Link to relevint conversation.
*:(Summarize Presentation)
* List Clarifing Questions
** Question - Answer
* List Concerns
** Concern - Questions Which Clarify the Concern
* Proposal:
*: (final proposal)
** Decision adopted (with Unresolved Concerns Listed - AKA Stand Asides) | Send to Committee (if creating a new committee list intrested people)

== REMAINING COMMITMENTS ==
: New commitments, and Carry-Overs copied from above.
* Name - commitment - status (discussion points if necessary)
* Name - commitment - status (discussion points if necessary)

== Next Meeting ==
* Facilitator:
* Scribe:
* Minutes Checker:
* Reporters to other meetings?
* Date and time:
* Place:
* List of unfinished business for the next meeting:

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 Cons:
 * less commitment
-* needs more training |}
+* needs more training
 Council lacks clarity in this and consensus was not attained. Please re-read the proposal in the light of this discussion and continue discussion on the list.

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 <br>Facilitator: Dave
 <br>Scribe: laurel1
-<br>Attendance: Bert, Anne, Tony, Marie, Jon, Ezra, martin, laurel, Seamus, Webb, Tim, Lloyd, Luiz, Cliff, Kathey, Sophia, Sergio, Scott, Dave (facilitator), Debra, Tim.
+<br>Attendance: Bert, Anne, Tony, Marie, Jon, Ezra, martin, laurel, Seamus, Webb, Tim, Roy, Luiz, Cliff, Kathey, Sophia, Sergio, Scott, Dave (facilitator), Debra, Tim.
 <br>Last meeting:
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 ** The exploratory position has assessment built in at the end of the six months, where we would know more about how commissioned positions work out and will be able to reassess what sort of position it would best be.
 Group reviewed some of the pros and cons of different position types: full time collective member, nother, commissioned, volunteer.
-*: (final proposal)
+Council lacks clarity in this and consensus was not attained. Please re-read the proposal in the light of this discussion and continue discussion on the list.
 == Next Meeting ==
-* Facilitator:
+* Facilitator: Kathey
-* Scribe:
+* Scribe: laurel1
 * Minutes Checker:
 * Reporters to other meetings?
-* Date and time:
+* Date and time: 19 August
-* Place:
+* Place: Meeting Room
 * List of unfinished business for the next meeting:

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 == BUSINESS ==
 === Ebay commission folks (NEW)===
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 ** We can't say that commissions avoid all cost; there is always cost to setting up and managing a position.
 ** If Sergio was working out well doing this, why throw out that model and try a new one?
-* Proposal: Try this out with a
 *: (final proposal)
 ** Decision adopted (with Unresolved Concerns Listed - AKA Stand Asides)

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 == BUSINESS ==
 === Ebay commission folks (NEW)===
-* Presented by Sergio http://lists.freegeek.org/pipermail/council/2009-July/002558.html
+* Presented by Sergio: [[Online Sales Contractor Proposal]]
+* Previous attempts to have non-staff people do online sales ran into problems where it required a lot of training and support. This proposal is to hire self-starting contractors with demonstrated technical competence who will not need much hand-holding.
-* List Clarifing Questions
+* '''Clarifying questions'''
-** Question - Answer
+** What goes into online sales and how is it tested? -- Stuff that doesn't really fit in with our usual flow or is really esoteric, which would be likely to be recycled. The testing would be part of the job of the online sales person. Part of their role would be to find the stuff on the premises. The stuff would not leave the premises.
-* List Concerns
+** Is the problem perhaps that there's not enough staff time? Why isn't this a staff addition proposal? -- Specialized knowledge is what we need, and it doesn't exist on staff. Also, this position would not have the volunteer-interaction and program coordination portions of the job that a full-time employee has to have. The exploratory proposal is to have two people; there might be more in the future if the exploratory positions work out.
-** Concern - Questions Which Clarify the Concern
+* '''List Concerns'''
-* Proposal:
+** The proposal says the really really good stuff will be sold by the coordinator, not the commissioned workers. Is that fair? - It wouldn't be fair to give any one of the commissioned workers something that we already knew was juicy; they should be getting the stuff that's otherwise getting recycled or sold for supercheap. they will know this at the outset.
 *: (final proposal)
-** Decision adopted (with Unresolved Concerns Listed - AKA Stand Asides) | Send to Committee (if creating a new committee list intrested people)
+** Decision adopted (with Unresolved Concerns Listed - AKA Stand Asides)

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-When:
+When: 7:15 pm, 7/15/2009
-<br>Place:
+<br>Place: Free Geek meeting room
-<br>Facilitator:
+<br>Facilitator: Dave
-<br>Scribe:
+<br>Scribe: laurel1
-<br>Minutes Checker:
+<br>Attendance: Bert, Anne, Tony, Marie, Jon, Ezra, martin, laurel, Seamus, Webb, Tim, Lloyd, Luiz, Cliff, Kathey, Sophia, Sergio, Scott, Dave (facilitator), Debra, Tim.
-<br>Attendance:
+<br>Last meeting:
 <br>Last meeting:
 == COMMITMENTS ==
-:Copy these from the prior meeting's minutes. Owner of each commitment should report on status: Done, In Progress, Carryover, Hand Off, or Drop. For items not completed, see http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Carryovers.
+* RFS - will pull together job descriptions for potential Americorps positions - DONE (will post links)
-* Name - commitment - status (discussion points if necessary)
-* Name - commitment - status (discussion points if necessary)
+== CONSENSUS TRAINING ==
 == REPORTS ==
-:Reports from other working groups.
+* '''State of the Onion''' http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/State_of_the_Onion
-* State of the Onion                                                                                                                http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/State_of_the_Onion
+* Kathey reports: '''Fundraising group''' has spun off from PR; has been meeting weekly to create a coherent longer-term plan, synthesizing materials from council brainstorms and [[General Priorities]] page. Next meeting time is currently up in the air; email funding@ to find out when the next meeting will be. One element of the process will be interviews. Look at the discussion page on the general priorities page.
-* General Priorities                                                                                                                     http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/General_Priorities
+* RFS reports: '''Financial outlook''' we have been doing well each quarter except for 3rd Qtr last year, due largely to sales. Also, we have received our property tax exemption.
 == BUSINESS ==
-=== TITLE: PRESENTERS NAME (NEW/OLD)===
+=== Ebay commission folks (NEW)===
-* Link to relevint conversation.
+* Presented by Sergio http://lists.freegeek.org/pipermail/council/2009-July/002558.html
-*:(Summarize Presentation)
 * List Clarifing Questions
 ** Question - Answer