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		<title>Rfs at 00:09, 7 July 2010</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;represent multiple sides of the issue, multiple shepherds could be&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;represent multiple sides of the issue, multiple shepherds could be&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Stillflame at 19:05, 19 July 2006</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==General flow==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==General flow==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;when anyone is approached with a concern, question or idea,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;when anyone is approached with a concern, question or idea,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Stillflame: initial copy from emails</title>
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		<updated>2006-07-19T19:02:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;initial copy from emails&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;==General flow==&lt;br /&gt;
when anyone is approached with a concern, question or idea,&lt;br /&gt;
it should be taken to the group of most specificity which would&lt;br /&gt;
sensibly be interested and/or responsible for addressing it.  that                                       &lt;br /&gt;
group is then responsible for addressing it within a month.  after&lt;br /&gt;
that, the requestor is given the opportunity to go to a group of less&lt;br /&gt;
specificity with both the original issue and to address the failure in&lt;br /&gt;
the responsiveness of whatever group was tasked with their issue&lt;br /&gt;
first.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===An example===&lt;br /&gt;
someone suggests to you that freegeek should use FreeBSD on our                                    &lt;br /&gt;
firewall.  you recommend them to go to the ASS meeting.  they do, and&lt;br /&gt;
the ASSes ignore them.  after a month of having their messages&lt;br /&gt;
ignored, the person then emails staff@ with their concern, who then&lt;br /&gt;
discuss it at their next meeting, ask the ASSes about it, and proceed&lt;br /&gt;
to suggest a solution.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Help things along==&lt;br /&gt;
Often a contentious subject comes up in council and we decide that&lt;br /&gt;
it needs more discussion; when it comes back up the next month, it&lt;br /&gt;
turns out we have not had time to have that discussion and everyone&lt;br /&gt;
who wasn&amp;#039;t there the previous month needs extensive briefing. My&lt;br /&gt;
proposal is that a shepherd should be assigned to such items who can&lt;br /&gt;
collect related information, scope out various viewpoints pro and con,&lt;br /&gt;
and present at the next meeting. If no one is available who can&lt;br /&gt;
represent multiple sides of the issue, multiple shepherds could be&lt;br /&gt;
assigned but must work together.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Stillflame</name></author>
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