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Re: RCBC Computer Reuse Organization Standard
 
Re: RCBC Computer Reuse Organization Standard
  
Free Geek's membership met recently to discuss the proposed standard.  We are very encouraged by the spirit of the document as it represents a significant step forward from current, unregulated practices.   We agree that there is a need for certifying reuse organizations and resellers in BC, and that a strict standard to which these organizations can be held will go a long way toward eliminating unethical or illegal practices.  However, our membership has a number of serious concerns, which will be described in detail later in this document along with proposed resolutions.  Our most serious concerns are as follows:
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Free Geek's membership met recently to discuss the proposed standard.  We are very encouraged by the spirit of the  
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document, particularly in its attempts to link acceptable re-use guidelines to transparency. We strongly agree that there is  
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a critical need to certify re-use organizations and resellers in BC, and that strict standards to which these  
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organizations can be held will go a long way toward eliminating unethical or illegal practices.  However, our  
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membership has a number of serious concerns, which will be described in detail later in this document along with  
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proposed resolutions, the most serious being as follows:
  
1. We cannot commit to directing unusable electronics to the provincially mandated e-waste stewardship program. At this time it is far from certain that the program will follow the best possible environmental practices.   We must reserve the right to seek better alternatives where possible.
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1. We are uncomfortable with formal requirements to endorse BC's EPR program, and to the mandatory direction of all unusable electronics to recyclers chosen without our consent.  As a community-based organization promoting transparency and accountability, we cannot commit to supporting a program which has not yet been explicitly defined and which we have not audited. An organisation like ours must always reserve the right to seek better alternatives where possible, without bias. Additionally, we consider articulated standards more constructive than mandatory recyclers.
  
2. We feel the residual lifespan criteria is needlessly restrictive and would prohibit innovative reuse and repurpose models, greatly reducing the amount of reusable product.
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2. We consider the residual lifespan criteria to be wastefully restrictive. It would needlessly prohibit innovative reuse and repurpose models, and greatly reduce the amount of reusable product, inherent educational benefits and research opportunities.  
  
3. We are uncomfortable being required to support BC's EPR program.  As a community organization with responsibility to public trust, we cannot commit to supporting a program which has not yet been properly defined and which we have not audited.  Moreover, we would require the independence to critically assess the program.
 
  
 
The remainder of this document comprises a detailed listing of all of our concerns, proposed resolutions, and commentary from the Basel Action Network.
 
The remainder of this document comprises a detailed listing of all of our concerns, proposed resolutions, and commentary from the Basel Action Network.
 
 
  
  
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We will address each item individually.
 
We will address each item individually.
  
1. We would like a clear distinction made between incineration and smelting.
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1. We strongly agree with the majority of this item. However, clarification of the term "incineration" would be helpful, and how it relates to smelting. There has been speculation that e-waste collected at official depots will be wholly smelted; this would hinder re-use organizations from participating meaningfully in the program. 
  
2.  
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2. An organisation like ours must always reserve the right to seek better alternatives where possible, without undue bias. At this time we are unable to evaluate the program's environmental practices, as they have yet to be fully articulated. Therefore we cannot commit to directing unusable electronics to the provincially mandated e-waste stewardship program. Instead of a mandated recycler, we prefer articulated standards like those provided by the Basel Action Network (e.g. no prison labour, not shipping to non-OECD countries; see the BAN pledge at http://ww.ban.org/pledge/electronics_recycler_pledge.pdf)
  
3. We agree with this point.
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3. We agree.
  
4. We agree, with one minor edit.
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4. We agree, with one minor edit: "reload the operating system" should become "reload an operating system", to allow for the operating system loaded being different from the one previously resident on the disk prior to wiping.
"reload the operating system" should become "reload an operating system", to allow for the operating system loaded being different from the one previously resident on the disk prior to wiping.
 
  
 
5. We agree.
 
5. We agree.
  
6.  
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6. We consider transparency essential to regulation, and are pleased to see industry-led pressure on this front. However we are reluctant to submit all re-use data to ESBC as it is an industry group, rather than a government or public body.  We consider it more appropriate to require that every re-use organisation make these details available to the general public, in an easily accessed location such as a website or wiki. For some time, other Free Geeks have taken some such measures voluntarily as a matter of course. (See an example at http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/PDX_Recycling_Vendors)
  
7.  
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7. We agree to the spirit of the item.  However, we are concerned that the cost of such insurance may be prohibitive to smaller organizations and must withhold final comment until we have researched the matter.
  
8.  
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8.  We feel this point is considerably vague; the term "product" requires elaboration.  How does it relate to the
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components of a computer, which may be disassembled and reassembled?  CRT monitors could be tracked, but almost
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every component inside a computer could be swapped out; some of these parts may be reusable and some not.
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Also, we would like assurance that organisations are not required to collect personal information about the persons donating
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the product, to maintain individuals' privacy.
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9.  We are uncomfortable with formal requirements to endorse BC's EPR program.  As a community-based organization promoting transparency and accountability, we cannot commit to supporting a program which has not yet been explicitly defined and which we have not audited. We desire further details regarding the phrase "co-operating with program stakeholders." All organisations should be encouraged to incessant pursuit of best environmental practices, and to bring public attention to any practice that falls short. In this spirit it is our pleasure  and duty to work with others to improve the program.
  
9.
 
  
 
10. We agree.
 
10. We agree.
 
 
  
  
 
B. Residual Lifespan Criteria
 
B. Residual Lifespan Criteria
  
We believe this criteria should only be applicable to shipping charitable equipment overseas.  However, we must note that Free Geek does not consider sending workable items to less developed countries to be appropriate, since is recycling infrastructure in these countries is usually not properly equipped to process the hazardous materials inside electronics.
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With respect to systems for export to developing countries:
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We agree that there is an urgent need to regulate the type of systems sent overseas for "re-use", as most hardware
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currently shipped under this label is in fact scrapAn age limit is probably a better indication of the
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remaining lifespan of the system; more detailed specifications, such as processor speed or hard disk size, are
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unnecessary, since they are directly correlated with the system's age, and will in fact change over time,
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necessating updating of the standard.
  
For domestic computers,  
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However, we must note that Free Geek does not consider sending used items to less developed countries to be
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appropriate unless there is clear provision either for proper recycling in those countries, or for shipping the
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items back to developed countries where they may be properly recycled.
  
This document outlines criteria for determining
 
whether a piece of hardware should be reused or
 
discarded.  Under these criteria, only recent,
 
relatively powerful machines running Windows (or
 
recent Macs) would be eligible for reuse;
 
everything else would have to be discarded. (See
 
the wiki for more details.)
 
  
The group raised a number of concerns:
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With respect to systems re-used domestically or in developed countries:
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We find the proposed minimum requirements to be overly simplistic and unsuited to the
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practical issues inherent in computer technology reuse, for the following reasons:
  
-The proposed criteria don't allow for free or
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1. Computers are treated as a whole, with no provision for dismantling machines and reusing or
open-source software, and reinstalling existing
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replacing parts.  Some parts can be repurposed for other purposes, like using old printer components
proprietary operating systems likely requires
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for robotics research, or using systems or parts for cultural/artistic endeavors or as film props.
purchasing a new license.
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Occasionally, there are direct applications for legacy hardware in the corporate and public sector, such as old floppy disk
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readers, or keyboards for expensive industrial manufacturing infrastructure. (See http://freegeekvancouver.org/en/GVRD_legacy_reuse) Older industrial machinery in particular can expand its longevity by replacing worn-out hard-to-find components.  
  
-Lots of the donations we receive
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2. There is no provision for free or open-source software as an alternative to propriety operating systems.  Open source
wouldn't meet these criteria even though older
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software can prolong the lifetime of older hardware and enables lower-cost refurbished systems, since there is no need to purchase new software licenses.  
machines can be quite useful -- for example, the
 
14 LSTP workstations in the computer lab
 
wouldn't meet the criteria, despite being
 
perfectly appropriate for a work/education
 
environment. They were made from P2s.
 
  
-Computers are treated as a whole, with no
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3. Our experiences have shown that the proposed minimum standard would wastefully divert a large amount of working, reusable hardware to recycling.  In particular, thin client networks can be created using one powerful server and many less-powerful client computers.  An example is the Linux Terminal Server Project (LTSP), recently adopted by the Kamloops District 73 School (see article: http://www.sd73.bc.ca/district-operations.php/page/linux-in-education/). Free Geek's own LTSP lab is composed of Pentium-III 500mhz computers.
provision for dismantling machines and reusing or
 
replacing parts (or repurposing old parts for
 
other purposes, like using old printer components
 
for robotics projects).
 
  
-Educational, repurposing, experimental, or
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Our membership is generally is agreement that, with the possible exception of overseas shipping, a residual lifespan criteria is wastefully restrictive. It would needlessly prohibit innovative reuse and repurpose models, and greatly reduce the amount of reusable product, inherent educational benefits and research opportunities.  
artistic re-use should not be excluded from
 
consideration.
 
  
In general, the proposed minimum requirements
 
are extremely simplistic and don't apply well to
 
practical applications/problems of reusing
 
computer technology. Such "minimum requirements"
 
were almost entirely rejected by the group.
 
 
It was noted that the program's desire to ensure
 
that obsolete equipment was not dumped on
 
consumers is a good one. The spirit of reuse
 
however is severly crippled in the draft.
 
 
Sim suggested that a requirement for refurbished
 
equipment to be "marketable" (i.e., likely to
 
appeal to end-users) might be better. He commented
 
that the focus seems to be on being a collection
 
point, at the expense of other things.
 
 
Ifny noted that maybe RCBC's original idea was to
 
ensure that only legimate, working equipment was
 
sent overseas. She proposed if that was case, some
 
minimum requirements might be restricted to
 
working items shipped abroad. This would help
 
ensure that developing countries get easily usable
 
equipment, while allowing groups in BC to find
 
creative ways of reusing as much hardware as
 
possible.  It was noted that Free Geek does not
 
consider sending workable items to poorer
 
countries to be appropriate, since there is no
 
sustainable recycling infrastructiure.
 
  
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C. Implementation Plan
  
C. Implementation Plan
 
 
We would like a definition of "person-to-person exchanges".
 
We would like a definition of "person-to-person exchanges".
  
  
D. Commentary from Basel Action Network
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D. Conclusion
 
 
 
 
 
 
This was an emergency public meeting to discuss
 
the Recycling Council of BC's Computer Reuse
 
Standard, which aims to establish standards for
 
quality control among reuse organizations. allo
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
* Background
 
 
 
The provincial government's e-waste recycling
 
program comes into effect on August 1.  At last
 
May's RCBC conference in Whistler, some RCBC
 
members (including Free Geek) expressed concern
 
that the program has no provision for reuse.  In
 
response, RCBC has been developing its Computer
 
Reuse Standard program, which aims to establish
 
standards for quality control in the reuse of
 
e-waste through a process of certifying groups
 
involved in the refurbishing and reuse of old
 
hardware.  The certification program will not be
 
mandatory, but obviously it would greatly benefit
 
Free Geek to be certified.
 
 
 
A few days ago RCBC sent David Repa several draft
 
documents pertaining  to the program and asked
 
for feedback; their aim is to finalize the
 
documents by August 1.  As David announced in an
 
earlier email to the general mailing list, the
 
draft documents have been posted to the FreeGeek wiki:
 
 
 
http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/RCBC_proposed_%22BC_Computer_Reuse_Standard%22
 
 
 
David and Ifny called the July 17 meeting so that
 
Free Geek members would have a chance to discuss
 
the documents and develop an official response to
 
the program as it is currently proposed.  Each
 
document was discussed in
 
turn.
 
 
 
 
 
* Residual Lifespan Criteria
 
 
 
This document outlines criteria for determining
 
whether a piece of hardware should be reused or
 
discarded.  Under these criteria, only recent,
 
relatively powerful machines running Windows (or
 
recent Macs) would be eligible for reuse;
 
everything else would have to be discarded. (See
 
the wiki for more details.)
 
 
 
The group raised a number of concerns:
 
 
 
-The proposed criteria don't allow for free or
 
open-source software, and reinstalling existing
 
proprietary operating systems likely requires
 
purchasing a new license.
 
 
 
-Lots of the donations we receive
 
wouldn't meet these criteria even though older
 
machines can be quite useful -- for example, the
 
14 LSTP workstations in the computer lab
 
wouldn't meet the criteria, despite being
 
perfectly appropriate for a work/education
 
environment. They were made from P2s.
 
 
 
-Computers are treated as a whole, with no
 
provision for dismantling machines and reusing or
 
replacing parts (or repurposing old parts for
 
other purposes, like using old printer components
 
for robotics projects).
 
 
 
-Educational, repurposing, experimental, or
 
artistic re-use should not be excluded from
 
consideration.
 
 
 
In general, the proposed minimum requirements
 
are extremely simplistic and don't apply well to
 
practical applications/problems of reusing
 
computer technology. Such "minimum requirements"
 
were almost entirely rejected by the group.
 
 
 
It was noted that the program's desire to ensure
 
that obsolete equipment was not dumped on
 
consumers is a good one. The spirit of reuse
 
however is severly crippled in the draft.
 
 
 
Sim suggested that a requirement for refurbished
 
equipment to be "marketable" (i.e., likely to
 
appeal to end-users) might be better. He commented
 
that the focus seems to be on being a collection
 
point, at the expense of other things.
 
 
 
Ifny noted that maybe RCBC's original idea was to
 
ensure that only legimate, working equipment was
 
sent overseas. She proposed if that was case, some
 
minimum requirements might be restricted to
 
working items shipped abroad. This would help
 
ensure that developing countries get easily usable
 
equipment, while allowing groups in BC to find
 
creative ways of reusing as much hardware as
 
possible.  It was noted that Free Geek does not
 
consider sending workable items to poorer
 
countries to be appropriate, since there is no
 
sustainable recycling infrastructiure.
 
 
 
 
 
* Pledge of Stewardship
 
 
 
To be certified by RCBC, reuse organizations would
 
have to sign (and be bound by) a 10-point "BC
 
Computer Reuse Organization Pledge of
 
Stewardship." FG members had problems with many of
 
the points in this pledge.  Contentious points
 
from the pledge are reproduced below, with FG
 
members' comments following.
 
 
 
"1. We will not allow any residual computer waste
 
that is not suitable for reuse to be sent to solid
 
waste, landfills or incinerators for disposal or
 
energy recovery, either directly or through
 
intermediaries."
 
 
 
- Members thought FG should get clarification on
 
whether "incineration" includes smelting.
 
 
 
"2. We commit to ensuring that unusable
 
electronics will be directed for safe
 
environmentally responsible recycling through the
 
approved provincially mandated e-waste stewardship
 
program."
 
 
 
- This point would force FG to recycle discarded
 
e-waste through Encorp, thus preventing us from
 
seeking better, more environmentally friendly
 
alternatives.
 
 
 
- Dave proposed mandating transparency, rather
 
than mandating who the recycler is.
 
 
 
- Sim suggested rewording this point to say
 
"...recycling that meets the minimum standards set
 
by the provincial program."  It was observed that
 
the program's minimum standards aren't explicitly
 
defined; in theory, Encorp's practices would be
 
the de facto minimum standard.
 
 
 
- Ifny suggested more articulated standards,
 
like BAN's (e.g. no prison labour, not shipping to
 
non-OECD countries)
 
 
 
- Members noted that forcing everyone to go
 
though Encorp might at least keep some
 
disreputable recyclers from cutting corners (e.g.,
 
shipping toxic waste materials to other
 
countries).  However, everyone felt that this
 
requirement was unacceptable.
 
 
 
Points 3-5 were acceptable to all members, except
 
that point 4 should read "reload AN operating
 
system" rather than "reload THE operating system."
 
It was stated that installing an operating system
 
after data wiping is good for data security.
 
However, there is no good reason that only the
 
previous operating system should be reinstalled.
 
Any operating system would do, including Linux.
 
 
 
"6. We agree to provide ESBC with details as to
 
the number of whole units collected as well as the
 
number of whole units donated or sold on an annual
 
basis. We will also document and report the number
 
of whole units and the volume of components, by
 
weight, diverted for recycling through the BC
 
stewardship program."
 
 
 
- Several members objected to this on the
 
grounds that ESBC is an industry group rather than
 
a government or civil society group.
 
 
 
- Members discussed why this data would be
 
collected (to provide an audit trail; to use in
 
the recycling program's PR materials, demographic
 
info).
 
 
 
- Support was expressed at the potential to make
 
other organisations more transparent.
 
 
 
- Joe suggested that these details should be
 
provided to "the public" (e.g., by posting them on
 
FG's website) rather than giving them to ESBC.
 
Members supported this proposal.
 
 
 
"7. We agree to adhere to environmentally
 
responsible operating methods as well as municipal
 
and provincial bylaws and regulations. We will
 
ensure that any unregulated wastes will be
 
disposed of in an environmentally responsible
 
manner in line with the spirit of the Recycling
 
Regulation. We will provide liability insurance
 
for accidents and incidents involving wastes under
 
our control and ownership."
 
 
 
- Members had no problem with the first two clauses.
 
 
 
- The question of insurance was subject to much
 
debate.  Some members felt that environmental
 
insurance was a good idea; others felt that
 
requiring environmental insurance could push
 
smaller reuse groups (possibly including FG) out
 
of business.  Members expressed concern for both
 
environmental protection and corporate
 
responsibility.
 
 
 
Ultimately the issue was tabled pending more
 
research before FG takes a stance on this subject.
 
 
 
 
 
"8. We will ensure due diligence throughout the
 
period that the product is in our procession with
 
a transparent and documented record of the chain
 
of possession from acquisition to dispensation."
 
 
 
- Members again felt this point was simplistic,
 
since "product" requires clarification. How does
 
it relate to components of a computer?
 
 
 
- There was concern that FG would have to assign
 
part numbers to all parts of disassembled machines
 
to satisfy this requirement.  Paul suggested that
 
if it came to that, we could probably discount
 
most parts as peripheral and only track major
 
components like motherboards.
 
 
 
- Ifny noted that we don't want to have to track
 
the original donor of each item, since doing so
 
would raise privacy concerns and would be
 
labor-intensive.
 
 
 
"9. We agree to support BC's regulated Electronics
 
Extended Producer Responsibility (EPR) program by
 
streaming residual E-waste to the program for
 
disposal, providing information and data to assist
 
in program monitoring and evaluation, providing
 
feedback to improve program performance and
 
cooperating with program stakeholders."
 
 
 
- Members were not comfortable with being
 
required to "support" EPR; we want FG to be free
 
to criticize the program if need be, and be an
 
organisation that the public can trust to be
 
unbiased. Cooperation with program stakeholders
 
was particularly problematic and requires
 
clarification
 
 
 
Members had no objection to point 10.
 
 
 
 
 
* Qualification Questionnaire
 
 
 
To be certified by RCBC, reuse organizations would
 
need to complete a questionnaire.  Members felt
 
that the questionnaire was acceptable.  It
 
was noted that some of the questions, such as the
 
one about waste permits, could apply to FG, and
 
that it would be worthwhile to follow up on those
 
points.
 
 
 
Ifny proposed anti-oppression training could be
 
part of our own "industry" training.
 
 
 
 
 
* Further Discussion
 
 
 
Ifny read out an email from the Basel Action
 
Network which outlined its stance on various
 
pertinent issues, such as shipping refurbished
 
hardware to developing countries and the hazards
 
of smelting.  Members strongly approved of BAN's
 
opinions.  BAN invited FG to incorporate this
 
material into its response to the proposed reuse
 
standards. Ifny will post BAN's opinions on the FG
 
website. They are also included at the bottom of
 
these minutes.
 
 
 
Members discussed whether it would be all right to
 
share the RCBC draft documents publicly.  Since
 
there was no restriction on sharing them when FG
 
received them, members felt it probably wasn't a
 
problem. We are extremely pleased to have been
 
consulted for feedback and included in
 
this loop.
 
 
 
A draft response will be sent to the general
 
mailing list by Thursday. Members agreed that FG's
 
response should recognize that, despite our
 
significant reservations about the draft
 
documents, the provincial program is a major step
 
in the right direction.
 
 
 
Ifny suggested a press release to coincide with
 
BAN movie night on Aug 2.  The Communications
 
workgroup will help to draft the press release.
 
  
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We support in principle the regulation of computer reuse organizations in BC.  We look forward to further involvement in the development of this program.
  
  
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Appendix. Commentary from Basel Action Network
  
The following is BAN's statement:
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Free Geek's opinions on e-waste and recycling are strongly influenced by those of the Basel Action Network (BAN). The following is a BAN statement articulating their position.
  
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Basel Action Network maintains that:
 
Basel Action Network maintains that:
  
-----  Advanced recycling fees are not a good
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1. Advanced recycling fees are not a good
 
financing mechanism in that they do not involve
 
financing mechanism in that they do not involve
 
the manufacturers in the end-of-life management of
 
the manufacturers in the end-of-life management of
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the manufacturing phase of a product’s lifecycle.
 
the manufacturing phase of a product’s lifecycle.
  
-----  Reuse of electronics is environmentally
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2. Reuse of electronics is environmentally
 
preferable to destruction, but only if tested
 
preferable to destruction, but only if tested
 
working and labeled equipment with a long life is
 
working and labeled equipment with a long life is
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expectancy.
 
expectancy.
  
-----  Refurbishment/repair of equipment generated
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3. Refurbishment/repair of equipment generated
 
in developed countries such as Canada or the US
 
in developed countries such as Canada or the US
 
must occur in the developed world prior to export
 
must occur in the developed world prior to export
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testing must be accomplished.
 
testing must be accomplished.
  
-----  Smelters play an important role in
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4. Smelters play an important role in
 
reclaiming metals from materials.  Because
 
reclaiming metals from materials.  Because
 
smelting always creates toxins, it is important to
 
smelting always creates toxins, it is important to
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furans at certain temperatures.
 
furans at certain temperatures.
  
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Latest revision as of 20:38, 30 September 2007

Please note: the version below is the final edition and was submitted as our official response.

Re: RCBC Computer Reuse Organization Standard

Free Geek's membership met recently to discuss the proposed standard. We are very encouraged by the spirit of the document, particularly in its attempts to link acceptable re-use guidelines to transparency. We strongly agree that there is a critical need to certify re-use organizations and resellers in BC, and that strict standards to which these organizations can be held will go a long way toward eliminating unethical or illegal practices. However, our membership has a number of serious concerns, which will be described in detail later in this document along with proposed resolutions, the most serious being as follows:

1. We are uncomfortable with formal requirements to endorse BC's EPR program, and to the mandatory direction of all unusable electronics to recyclers chosen without our consent. As a community-based organization promoting transparency and accountability, we cannot commit to supporting a program which has not yet been explicitly defined and which we have not audited. An organisation like ours must always reserve the right to seek better alternatives where possible, without bias. Additionally, we consider articulated standards more constructive than mandatory recyclers.

2. We consider the residual lifespan criteria to be wastefully restrictive. It would needlessly prohibit innovative reuse and repurpose models, and greatly reduce the amount of reusable product, inherent educational benefits and research opportunities.


The remainder of this document comprises a detailed listing of all of our concerns, proposed resolutions, and commentary from the Basel Action Network.


A. Pledge of Stewardship

We will address each item individually.

1. We strongly agree with the majority of this item. However, clarification of the term "incineration" would be helpful, and how it relates to smelting. There has been speculation that e-waste collected at official depots will be wholly smelted; this would hinder re-use organizations from participating meaningfully in the program.

2. An organisation like ours must always reserve the right to seek better alternatives where possible, without undue bias. At this time we are unable to evaluate the program's environmental practices, as they have yet to be fully articulated. Therefore we cannot commit to directing unusable electronics to the provincially mandated e-waste stewardship program. Instead of a mandated recycler, we prefer articulated standards like those provided by the Basel Action Network (e.g. no prison labour, not shipping to non-OECD countries; see the BAN pledge at http://ww.ban.org/pledge/electronics_recycler_pledge.pdf)

3. We agree.

4. We agree, with one minor edit: "reload the operating system" should become "reload an operating system", to allow for the operating system loaded being different from the one previously resident on the disk prior to wiping.

5. We agree.

6. We consider transparency essential to regulation, and are pleased to see industry-led pressure on this front. However we are reluctant to submit all re-use data to ESBC as it is an industry group, rather than a government or public body. We consider it more appropriate to require that every re-use organisation make these details available to the general public, in an easily accessed location such as a website or wiki. For some time, other Free Geeks have taken some such measures voluntarily as a matter of course. (See an example at http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/PDX_Recycling_Vendors)

7. We agree to the spirit of the item. However, we are concerned that the cost of such insurance may be prohibitive to smaller organizations and must withhold final comment until we have researched the matter.

8. We feel this point is considerably vague; the term "product" requires elaboration. How does it relate to the components of a computer, which may be disassembled and reassembled? CRT monitors could be tracked, but almost every component inside a computer could be swapped out; some of these parts may be reusable and some not. Also, we would like assurance that organisations are not required to collect personal information about the persons donating the product, to maintain individuals' privacy.

9. We are uncomfortable with formal requirements to endorse BC's EPR program. As a community-based organization promoting transparency and accountability, we cannot commit to supporting a program which has not yet been explicitly defined and which we have not audited. We desire further details regarding the phrase "co-operating with program stakeholders." All organisations should be encouraged to incessant pursuit of best environmental practices, and to bring public attention to any practice that falls short. In this spirit it is our pleasure and duty to work with others to improve the program.


10. We agree.


B. Residual Lifespan Criteria

With respect to systems for export to developing countries: We agree that there is an urgent need to regulate the type of systems sent overseas for "re-use", as most hardware currently shipped under this label is in fact scrap. An age limit is probably a better indication of the remaining lifespan of the system; more detailed specifications, such as processor speed or hard disk size, are unnecessary, since they are directly correlated with the system's age, and will in fact change over time, necessating updating of the standard.

However, we must note that Free Geek does not consider sending used items to less developed countries to be appropriate unless there is clear provision either for proper recycling in those countries, or for shipping the items back to developed countries where they may be properly recycled.


With respect to systems re-used domestically or in developed countries: We find the proposed minimum requirements to be overly simplistic and unsuited to the practical issues inherent in computer technology reuse, for the following reasons:

1. Computers are treated as a whole, with no provision for dismantling machines and reusing or replacing parts. Some parts can be repurposed for other purposes, like using old printer components for robotics research, or using systems or parts for cultural/artistic endeavors or as film props. Occasionally, there are direct applications for legacy hardware in the corporate and public sector, such as old floppy disk readers, or keyboards for expensive industrial manufacturing infrastructure. (See http://freegeekvancouver.org/en/GVRD_legacy_reuse) Older industrial machinery in particular can expand its longevity by replacing worn-out hard-to-find components.

2. There is no provision for free or open-source software as an alternative to propriety operating systems. Open source software can prolong the lifetime of older hardware and enables lower-cost refurbished systems, since there is no need to purchase new software licenses.

3. Our experiences have shown that the proposed minimum standard would wastefully divert a large amount of working, reusable hardware to recycling. In particular, thin client networks can be created using one powerful server and many less-powerful client computers. An example is the Linux Terminal Server Project (LTSP), recently adopted by the Kamloops District 73 School (see article: http://www.sd73.bc.ca/district-operations.php/page/linux-in-education/). Free Geek's own LTSP lab is composed of Pentium-III 500mhz computers.

Our membership is generally is agreement that, with the possible exception of overseas shipping, a residual lifespan criteria is wastefully restrictive. It would needlessly prohibit innovative reuse and repurpose models, and greatly reduce the amount of reusable product, inherent educational benefits and research opportunities.


C. Implementation Plan

We would like a definition of "person-to-person exchanges".


D. Conclusion

We support in principle the regulation of computer reuse organizations in BC. We look forward to further involvement in the development of this program.


Appendix. Commentary from Basel Action Network

Free Geek's opinions on e-waste and recycling are strongly influenced by those of the Basel Action Network (BAN). The following is a BAN statement articulating their position.


Basel Action Network maintains that:

1. Advanced recycling fees are not a good financing mechanism in that they do not involve the manufacturers in the end-of-life management of their products, and thereby do nothing to drive redesign for the environment and human health. If manufacturers have to pay for end-of-life costs (e.g. via incorporating these costs into the price of a new product), then they have a direct economic incentive to redesign their products to be less toxic, more upgradeable, more easily recycled, and perhaps longer lived. Ultimately, toxic waste issues must be addressed upstream in the manufacturing phase of a product’s lifecycle.

2. Reuse of electronics is environmentally preferable to destruction, but only if tested working and labeled equipment with a long life is allowed into the reuse market, and particularly the developing countries. Both the EU and Australia have developed detailed criteria for determining when a used electronic is a product acceptable for exporting for reuse, or is a waste, based on interpretation of the international treaty (Basel Convention) that governs the trade in toxic wastes. (www.basel.int) Our criteria for tested working equipment would allow for older equipment that runs on open source software to be allowed into the reuse market, if it is tested and fully functional, and has a reasonable life expectancy.

3. Refurbishment/repair of equipment generated in developed countries such as Canada or the US must occur in the developed world prior to export to developing countries, if those repairs will result in the replacement or removal of a hazardous part (such as circuit boards, CRTs, fluorescent lamps, batteries, etc.) In order to determine what types of repairs are needed, testing must be accomplished.

4. Smelters play an important role in reclaiming metals from materials. Because smelting always creates toxins, it is important to only use smelters that use the best technology to minimize the creation of dioxins and furans, and to capture toxic air emissions. Circuit boards and other metal-bearing e-scrap generated in developed countries should only be smelted in developed countries. We support the use of smelters in countries such as Canada, US, Belgium and Sweden, rather than using smelters in the developing countries. We do not support sending this entire e-waste stream directly to smelters, where much of the materials are not reclaimed, but rather are burned (which is a form of disposal, including waste-to-energy processes.) End-of-life electronics should be manually or mechanically separated and subsequent materials sent for material separation and reuse (e.g. plastics back into plastics usage, etc.) rather than burned or used as BTUs in a thermal process, even in waste-to-energy facilities. Thermal processing of plastics impregnated with brominated flame retardants can create brominated dioxins and furans at certain temperatures.