Council 2005 03

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March 16, 2005


Roll Call

Dave H (staff), Richard S (staff), Nathan (staff), Missy, Shawn (staff), Mark, Clint, Wren, Wes, Martin (staff), Matteo, Michael, Rev Phil, Pete Forsyth

Committments from Previous Meeting

  • Board of Directors
    • Oso to invite MNR and Dennis (the remaining active Free Geek board members) to this meeting, to discuss the future of the Board of Directors - CARRY OVER.
    • COMMITMENT: Martin will discuss with Oso whether this will happen at next meeting, and report back to the list.
    • Martin: Oso did meet with Mark Nieman-Ross. Neither Oso nor Mark is here this month. Mark started a wiki page about the future of the Board at Free_Geek_Bylaws and people should continue discussion there so we're better prepared when Board people do show up at Council meeting (hopefully next month.) CARRYOVER
  • Tantalum research
    • Martin will make a Wiki page so that other people can help out - CARRY OVER
    • COMMITMENTS: Michael will assist with research. Martin will post to council list.
    • Martin: Michael did an excellent job. (Gives out handout with results of research.) Recycling process is 35% efficient. But it is a valuable metal. We might get $63-74 perpound for capacitors that contain tantalum.

At this point, not feasible as a main part of what we do. Also have not found a local buyer. (How important is this? Are shipping costs the main concern? -Pete) Where to go: take black hole ppl and have them look at recycle-bound laptops, and see how feasible it would be to remove tantalum capacitors. Try to find local recyclers. Nathan's idea - heat-based removal (soldering) could explore this. Clint: is it worthwhile to hot-plate an entire motherboard at once, and pick off various components? Nathan: think about side effects such as fumes. Michael: danger of lead poisoning. Richard: let's stop talking details, and approve the proposal to have black hole folks do more research.

PROPOSAL APPROVED: Get black hole folks on it. Report back next month.

  • Pickups
    • Can we get Flexcar to donate use of a vehicle for occasional pickup of large hardware donations? - CARRY OVER
    • COMMITMENTS: Pete will post draft to list for any feedback, and allow 1-2 business days before it's sent out. Phil will send the letter
    • Pete- I sent out the letter. Clint has relevant ideas, and will check the email archive. Expect a proposal once there's been more discussion with Flexcar. (Update since meeting...I received an enthusiastic response from Steve Gutmann at Flexcar; he is supportive of an agreement in general, but had different ideas about the specifics. See FlexCar_Deal -Pete)
  • Program for Blind/Visually Impaired Adopters
    • Wesley (Tallwes) was the one developing this proposal - Updats Progress is made
  • Envata (spelling?)
    • This ISP is interested in getting referrals from FreeGeek - CARRY OVER
    • COMMITMENT:Phil will report on $$ deal (also Michael, Pete, Shawn)
    • Consensus: tech support will make us recommend them; $$ won't
    • Phil: naked bicyclists calendar. Everybody: ????????

DOJ said we did not have official agreement so we didn't get credit for the one person that signed up. (Even though Phil had signed an agreement.)

Shawn: two questions, 1 can we get $ from them, and 2 can we recommend them. Richard: We have established a firm contingency that IF they can provide good tech support, THEN we can recommend them. Thus, we are at a standstill/carryover on Question 2 until we hear back from Michael W. about tech support. Pete: do we really need to recommend one over the other, or can we just give info out on both? Richard: Wiz To Coho is really good, many ISP's have expressed interest in this sort of thing and not been that good. So we really need to wait for Michael's assessment, more discussion before that is likely just wasted breath. CARRY OVER awaiting Michael Westwind's input

  • Monitors: Decision to brainstorm.
    • Monitors: Carry Over. No, die! die! unless anybody wants to make a proposal. Ok, we're letting this issue die.

Reports from Other Meeting

Old Business

(from previous meeting's minutes)

  • FUTURE OF COLLAB:
  • Board of Directors
  • Meta-Question
  • VBC: (If there is a proposal)

New Business

(from answers to call for agenda items)

Future Committments

(This is not a part of the meeting, but a section in the notes that the scribe write down.)

  • Carryovers from above
  • Committments made during this meeting

Next Meeting

  • Facilitator

Dave

  • Scribe

Martin

  • Reporters to other meetings?
  • Date and time

April 20 (I THINK -pete) at 7pm

  • Place

Free Geek meeting room

  • Unfinished business for the next meeting?

hey council,

FreeGeek_Space_Usage jeff's proposal to make space allocation the provision of the council was not put onto the agenda for last night's meeting, so we didn't discuss it. we should try to remember it for next time.

meow, - martin

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